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own age myname · Jul 29, 2009, 12:18 PM // 12:18

I'm trying to get into 600/Smite for some extra cash.

So, my question is, which dungeon is the best to start on? Also, if you could list some of the easier dungeons, that'd be great.

Thanks in advance.

Deakon · Jul 29, 2009, 12:23 PM // 12:23

Temple of the Damned (commonly referred to as CoF, Cathedral of Flames) is probably the easiest.

LoneManWolf · Jul 29, 2009, 01:18 PM // 13:18

if u have experience then u can go ahead and move onto something a little more profitable
SoO is fairly easy as well
if ur new to 600/smite then start with cof to get the hang of it

Songbringer · Jul 29, 2009, 01:32 PM // 13:32

Rragars is easy.

riktw · Jul 29, 2009, 01:53 PM // 13:53

Cof is easy, or go and farm a bit in UW or FoW, easy to.

Pikey · Jul 29, 2009, 02:21 PM // 14:21

SoO is easy but the end boss is so annoying, I've gotten to him 3 times and allways given up after like 10 tries...

Coverticus · Jul 29, 2009, 02:34 PM // 14:34

Depends purely on your experience tbh - since you are stating you are trying to get into 600/smite, the easiest to start with is 600ing Wajun Bazaar (outside of The Marketplace in Factions). Get used to it here since there is nothing really to worry about (enchantment strippers for example) and will get you used to countering interrupts (bring Mantra of Resolve to get yourself used to this skill). It will also bring a reasonable return in terms of drops (e.g. runes).

Once happy with this, either go into the Underworld (though needing 1k entry fee or a scroll) or start on the dungeon path to glory. Cathedral of Flames/Temple of the Damned is the best starter (as already mentioned) since you can access the dungeon directly from Doomlore Shrine. Little to worry about in there, the only difference compared to the above is requiring Spellbreaker. Also be prepared for Reversal of Damage, since this will hurt your bonder (cast Retribution then Holy Wrath to negate some of the damage). Have your runnees bring heals for this. Will suggest you don't bring a healing hero (as some runners do this), as it will lessen your money return on the run (2k per spot).

Every other dungeon will require getting to it from an outpost, so be prepared for that (or bring someone who can run there for you as an example). Kathandrax is easy once you are there. Same with Oola's Lab. The Ooze Pit is also straightforward, though requiring a little thought at the end with the boss(es).

Rragars is straightforward too, though a lot of people tend to run with an extra hero that can utilise Frozen Soil. So Rragars (and Shards of Orr) tend to be 3 person setups, so leave these for now until you get proficient in 2 man running.

The harder dungeons leave for now (such as Arachni's Haunt). If you wish to give it a go, by all means do so. But generally the people you run are very demanding so running the ones you feel most comfortable with will give you the confidence of having hassle-free groups. Doesn't always happen of course.

Hope this helps you.

Pikey · Jul 29, 2009, 02:38 PM // 14:38

Can any1 tell me why there is no 600 guide for rragar's or oolas lab on PVX wiki?

Coverticus · Jul 29, 2009, 02:49 PM // 14:49

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Originally Posted by Pikey

Can any1 tell me why there is no 600 guide for rragar's or oolas lab on PVX wiki?

Oolas basically requires a similar setup to a normal CoF build - if you can get someone to run there for you, Spellbreaker is not needed thus opening up a whole range of build potentials. I ran Mo/N whenever I did it (not using SS) but you could trial anything you wish really.

There used to be one for Rragars. A CoF build works fine for example, you just need to be careful with the sub bosses on Level 3 (the necros) and Rragar/Hidesplitter with their interrupts. Hence why a few people run a 2nd hero with Frozen Soil, QZ and condition removals.

El Perma Shadow · Jul 29, 2009, 02:50 PM // 14:50

becasue it would then be avaliable for everyone, there for its not put up to keep the run cost so much

Pikey · Jul 29, 2009, 03:49 PM // 15:49

fair enough, gonna go try Oolas

MagmaRed · Jul 29, 2009, 04:35 PM // 16:35

Each dungeon is different and requires different builds/heroes. For instance, in CoF, you face Reversal of Damage Monks and need to keep the smiter alive. THis can be done by other people/heroes or the smiter taking self healing. Then in Shards of Orr you need anti-knockdowns and QZ to keep Spell Breaker up. Vloxen has a lot of interrupts to deal with, so you need Mantra of Resolve or something similar. In short, practice is not possible for all dungeons, you must practice that dungeon to learn it. Practicing CoF will not help you much at all for learning how to do SoO, etc.

lewis91 · Jul 29, 2009, 04:38 PM // 16:38

As the rest said, CoF is stupidly easy.

Taixen · Jul 29, 2009, 06:08 PM // 18:08

The first dungeon I learnt to 600/Smite was Heart of Shiverpeaks - The only real problem is Magmus at the end as I found that having non permanent Spell Breaker makes it a bit tricky, although found that taking a QZ Ranger or Archane Echo makes it a much simpler process.

Mesmer in Need · Jul 29, 2009, 06:43 PM // 18:43

I practiced 600/smite doing DTSC (as well as maxing my kurz), after that CoF, Hos, and Oolas was a piece of cake. DTSC lets you experience things like interruption and kd's which will prepare you for when these happen in dungeons.

Zzes Tyan · Jul 29, 2009, 07:30 PM // 19:30

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Originally Posted by Mesmer in Need

I practiced 600/smite doing DTSC (as well as maxing my kurz), after that CoF, Hos, and Oolas was a piece of cake. DTSC lets you experience things like interruption and kd's which will prepare you for when these happen in dungeons.

DTSC or MQSC helps you learn 600 alot, if you can Wallow for MQSC you can probably run most dungeons

own age myname · Jul 29, 2009, 08:51 PM // 20:51

Ok thank you everyone. I'll take all your suggestions in. If anyone has more though that would be great

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Jul 29, 2009, 12:18 PM // 12:18	#1
own age myname Desert Nomad Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Minnesota Guild: [TAS] Profession: R/	Practice Dungeon? I'm trying to get into 600/Smite for some extra cash. So, my question is, which dungeon is the best to start on? Also, if you could list some of the easier dungeons, that'd be great. Thanks in advance.

Jul 29, 2009, 12:23 PM // 12:23	#2
Deakon Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Arkansas Guild: Just The Four Of Us [TRIO] Profession: Mo/E	Temple of the Damned (commonly referred to as CoF, Cathedral of Flames) is probably the easiest.

Jul 29, 2009, 01:18 PM // 13:18	#3
LoneManWolf Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2009 Profession: Mo/	if u have experience then u can go ahead and move onto something a little more profitable SoO is fairly easy as well if ur new to 600/smite then start with cof to get the hang of it

Jul 29, 2009, 01:32 PM // 13:32	#4
Songbringer Desert Nomad Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: EastCoast Profession: E/Me	Rragars is easy.

Jul 29, 2009, 01:53 PM // 13:53	#5
riktw Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: netherlands Profession: Mo/E	Cof is easy, or go and farm a bit in UW or FoW, easy to.

Jul 29, 2009, 02:21 PM // 14:21	#6
Pikey Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: United Kingdom Profession: Mo/	SoO is easy but the end boss is so annoying, I've gotten to him 3 times and allways given up after like 10 tries...

Jul 29, 2009, 02:34 PM // 14:34	#7
Coverticus Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jan 2006 Guild: The Zodiac Elites [TZE] Profession: Mo/	Depends purely on your experience tbh - since you are stating you are trying to get into 600/smite, the easiest to start with is 600ing Wajun Bazaar (outside of The Marketplace in Factions). Get used to it here since there is nothing really to worry about (enchantment strippers for example) and will get you used to countering interrupts (bring Mantra of Resolve to get yourself used to this skill). It will also bring a reasonable return in terms of drops (e.g. runes). Once happy with this, either go into the Underworld (though needing 1k entry fee or a scroll) or start on the dungeon path to glory. Cathedral of Flames/Temple of the Damned is the best starter (as already mentioned) since you can access the dungeon directly from Doomlore Shrine. Little to worry about in there, the only difference compared to the above is requiring Spellbreaker. Also be prepared for Reversal of Damage, since this will hurt your bonder (cast Retribution then Holy Wrath to negate some of the damage). Have your runnees bring heals for this. Will suggest you don't bring a healing hero (as some runners do this), as it will lessen your money return on the run (2k per spot). Every other dungeon will require getting to it from an outpost, so be prepared for that (or bring someone who can run there for you as an example). Kathandrax is easy once you are there. Same with Oola's Lab. The Ooze Pit is also straightforward, though requiring a little thought at the end with the boss(es). Rragars is straightforward too, though a lot of people tend to run with an extra hero that can utilise Frozen Soil. So Rragars (and Shards of Orr) tend to be 3 person setups, so leave these for now until you get proficient in 2 man running. The harder dungeons leave for now (such as Arachni's Haunt). If you wish to give it a go, by all means do so. But generally the people you run are very demanding so running the ones you feel most comfortable with will give you the confidence of having hassle-free groups. Doesn't always happen of course. Hope this helps you.

Jul 29, 2009, 02:38 PM // 14:38	#8
Pikey Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: United Kingdom Profession: Mo/	Can any1 tell me why there is no 600 guide for rragar's or oolas lab on PVX wiki?

Jul 29, 2009, 02:50 PM // 14:50	#10
El Perma Shadow Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jul 2009 Guild: Conspired Illuminated Experts (CLX) Profession: A/	becasue it would then be avaliable for everyone, there for its not put up to keep the run cost so much

Jul 29, 2009, 03:49 PM // 15:49	#11
Pikey Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: United Kingdom Profession: Mo/	fair enough, gonna go try Oolas

Jul 29, 2009, 04:35 PM // 16:35	#12
MagmaRed Furnace Stoker Join Date: Mar 2007 Guild: Our Crabs Know True [LOVE] Profession: R/	Each dungeon is different and requires different builds/heroes. For instance, in CoF, you face Reversal of Damage Monks and need to keep the smiter alive. THis can be done by other people/heroes or the smiter taking self healing. Then in Shards of Orr you need anti-knockdowns and QZ to keep Spell Breaker up. Vloxen has a lot of interrupts to deal with, so you need Mantra of Resolve or something similar. In short, practice is not possible for all dungeons, you must practice that dungeon to learn it. Practicing CoF will not help you much at all for learning how to do SoO, etc.

Jul 29, 2009, 04:38 PM // 16:38	#13
lewis91 Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Wales Guild: Order of the Azurelight[OA] Profession: E/	As the rest said, CoF is stupidly easy.

Jul 29, 2009, 06:08 PM // 18:08	#14
Taixen Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: England Profession: A/	The first dungeon I learnt to 600/Smite was Heart of Shiverpeaks - The only real problem is Magmus at the end as I found that having non permanent Spell Breaker makes it a bit tricky, although found that taking a QZ Ranger or Archane Echo makes it a much simpler process.

Jul 29, 2009, 06:43 PM // 18:43	#15
Mesmer in Need Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: [ToA]	I practiced 600/smite doing DTSC (as well as maxing my kurz), after that CoF, Hos, and Oolas was a piece of cake. DTSC lets you experience things like interruption and kd's which will prepare you for when these happen in dungeons.

Jul 29, 2009, 08:51 PM // 20:51	#17
own age myname Desert Nomad Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Minnesota Guild: [TAS] Profession: R/	Ok thank you everyone. I'll take all your suggestions in. If anyone has more though that would be great .